Ferdinando Prater, Gentleman

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• Reference Number: 4.14
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• Occupation: Stanton St.Bernard Manor
• Reference Number: 4096-3.2
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Anthony was the 2nd born son in his family. His father was very wealthy,
thus his inheritance was substantial, but it was the custom in those times to
give most of the inheritance, titles , etc. to the 1st born son.
He inherited Stanton St.Bernard Manor which is located in south central
Wiltshire. (near the famous Stone Henge)
His older brother Richard was the heir to most of their fathers property and
titles. Richard lived at Nunney Castle located a Nunney, Somerset.
Richards holdings were vast, consisting of several manors (villiages with all
the businessess in the villiage), 40 farms with the surfs (slaves) that lived
on them and 30 farms without surfs, 4000 acres of meadow land and approx.
300 acres of timber. Richard held the title of "Esquire" and "Lord of Nunney".
Anthony was named in Richards Will as "Trustee" of the estates when Richard
died in 1580. Anthony was trustee for 6 years until Richards son (George)
became of age. (Nunney was aquired from "Lord St.John"- Sir William Paulet).
Anthony had much trouble with the family and was taken to court many times.
The Earl of Bolingbroke which Anthony "held" under wrote in the court record
that "Anthony Prater, a troublesome man". Anthony's business dealings were
often in dispute.
Anthony's wife Judith (Ivye) Prater died when her seventh son was born.
Anthony placed a stone carving in the wall of West Kingston Church above her
tomb. This stone carving shows Anthony, his Coat-of-Arms with simbols of his
wifes family Coat-of-Arms and the carving of his children and a eulogy to his
children and all people who were to read this stone carving.

OH MI DEAR CHILDREN MARKE WHAT I SAYE,
YOUR MOTHERS BONES TRULI ARE WRAPT HERE IN CLAY
HER SOULE NO DOUPTE, TO HEAVEN IS GONE THITHER
WHER WE MOST JOYFULLY SHALL MEET ALLTOGETHER
THE LORD BE YOUR GUIDE, THE LORD BE YOUR STRENGTH
AND GIVE YOU HIS SPECIAL GRACE TO DIE IN HIM AT LENGTH
YOU GENTELL READERS REMEMBER YOUR END
BE TRUE UNTO SUCH WHOM FAITHFULL YOU FIND
LET THIS BE EXAMPLE AND TELL HIT ABROAD
HOW FAITHFULLI THIS WOMAN DIED IN THE LORD

Judiths tomb is in the floor of the Ivye chapel with the above carving in the
wall just above her tomb. The following inscription was placed in the stone
which covers her tomb. It was written by Anthony as was the above inscription.
The following inscription can no long be seen because a wooden floor has
been placed in the church so that it could be properly heated, but the above
carving can still be seen.

REST IN THE LORD MOST LOVING WIFE,
THY DAIES ARE SPENT AND GONNE,
THY HUSBAND'S RACE AND END OF LIFE
SHALL BE, GOD KNOWETH HOW SOON.
THOUGH DEATH HATH DOON THE WORST HE CAN
TO PART US TWAYN A SPACE,
YET TIME WILL COME TO MEET AGAIN
IN HEAVEN THAT JOYFULL PLACE.
WITH BITTER TEARES THY HUSBAND SPAKE
THESE WORDS UPON THY TOOMBE,
HIS HAND DID WRITE, THES VERS DID MAKE,
TO SHOW IN TIME TO CUM
HOW FAITHFULL THOU HAS BEEN TO ME,
AND HADDEST SIX CHILDREN DEAR,
WITHIN SIX YEARE A MARVELL TO SEE
ALL BORNE ONE TIME OF YEARE;
THE SEAVENTH ALSO IN LIKE MANNER,
IF DEATH HAD NOT THEM LETT,
BORNE HAD BEEN AS THE OTHER WEAR,
AT MIDSUMMER TIME DIRECT.
ALAS HOW SHOULD IT CHANCE SO BAD
TO LITTLE BABES SO YOUNG,
TO TELL IN TIME WHAT LOSSE THEY HAD
BI NATURE WHENCE THEY SPROUNG
BUT GOD IS HE WHO GIVITH LIFE,
AND HE THAT TAKES AWAY,
LET US THEREFORE AVOYD ALL STRIFE
AND GEVE OURSELVES TO PRAY.
THY CHILDREN'S NAMES IF MEN WOULD KNOW,
WHICH GOD HATH GEVEN TO THEE,
BEHOLD ARE WRITTEN HERE BELOW
IN ORDER AS THEY BEE.
THOMAS, WILLIAM, ELIZABETH, FERNDINANDO, GEORGE, THOMAS

About these verses, in the Limbe, thus: Here lieth Judeth Prator, the wife
of Anthony Prater, Gentilman, daughter unto Thomas Ivie, Esqr., Who
died the sixth day of February, Anno Domini 1578.
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Anthony remarried and had at least one other child -- George Prater.
Anthony married, 2nd.Elizabeth (Winter) Ivye, the widow of his wifes
brother, Ferndinando Ivye. /

Stanton St.Bernard Manor is located about 20 miles due south of
Swindon, Wiltshire, England and about 5 miles west of the famous
Stonehenge.
Anthony's tomb is in the floor of the church at his manor of Stanton
St. Bernard, Wiltshire
His wife, Judith Ivie, rest in her tomb which is located in the Floor of
Ivye chapel in the church of West Kingston, Wiltshire.
West Kingston, Wiltshire was one of the manors "held" by Anthony Prater's
Great Grandparents, Sir Anthony Kingston.

Anthony Prater received the manor of "Hook" from his younger brother
Nicholis, who he claimed to be a lunatic. He kept and cared for his brother
for many years and claimed ownership of "Hook" as his compensation.
When Anthony's wife died, Nicholis was sent to live with their sister in
London. Shortly after he brought claim against Anthony claiming "he had
regained his former health". But the court found in Anthonys favor and
Anthony retained the manor of "Hook".
Shortly after the court found in Anthonys favor, Nicholis and "others"
went to Anthonys manor and stole 18 prize cows.
Nothing more is recorded as to the outcome of this act.
It is recorded that Anthony was later "Excommunicated from the Catholic
Church for his "extorsionate practices". He died without reconsiliation.

In order for him to have a burial place in the church, Anthony must have
taken the Kings religion, thus by joining the Church of England he was able
to secure his burial place in the church at Stanton St. Bernard.

Spelling variation of his name found in the records:
Pretor, Preter, Prater, Prator, Pratero, Praytor.

Researched and photographed by:
Gary Benton Prather
Sulphur, Okla. / Frisco, TX. 1974

His wife's family held All Cannings (Can Court) which came into the Ivye
family from Judith's Great Grandmother, Isabell Canning.
This also became one of Anthony Prater's holdings through marriage to Judith.

Anthony married Judith (Ivry), (Ivry) Abt 1566, West Kingston, Wiltshire, England. Judith (daughter of Thomas Anthony Ivie, Sir and Elizabeth Malet) was born 1550, West Kingston, Wiltshire, England; was christened , (She Was Her Husbands Cousin); died 06 Feb 1578, W. Kingston Chur, Wiltshire, England; was buried , West Kingston Church, Ivye Chancel. [Group Sheet]

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!She is buried in the Ivye section,South Aisle of West Kingston Church.

Anthony had a stone carving placed in the wall above Judiths tomb.
This stone has a carving of Anthony and his coat-of-arms with simbols of his
wifes families coat-of-arms.It shows her father being Thomas Anthony Ivye,
and descendancy from Delamare, and Judith as being the 4th born child.
West Kingston was the Manor of Anthony's grandparents, his grandmother was
Elene (Kingston) Prater. Anthony also had a poem carved in the cap stone
on his wifes tomb exclaiming his love, and other carvings of his children.

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• Occupation: and others; Latton Manor
• Reference Number: 8192-2.1
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!I find George of Latton co.Wilts and Richard of Eaton Water,Wilts.Latton is a
Parish,Eaton Water is a place.Visitation of Wilts 1623,when his daughter
Dorothy m.George Provender,her last name is listed as Prowse or Precy or
Prater of Latton.

George Prater lived at Latton, Wiltshire which has been in existance
sense before the Roman occupation of England. There are still old Roman
ruins there today.
I believe that George was the Reeve of Nunney, Somerset, working under his
cousin Sir William Paulet. George later purchased the holdings of Nunney from
his cousin in a tax deal, which kept the Manor of Nunney in the family.
Nunney Castle was included in this transaction which was handled by a Jack
Prater. We do not know how Jack is related to the family , it is possible that
Jack was the "nick" name for John. This was a very common "nick" name that
was used in those days. Records state that Nunney was purchased out of the
estate of George's father John.
George lived during the time that King Henry VIII created the Church
of England and discontinued recognizing the Cathlic Church.
This was a harsh time for the Praters, because they were Cathlic. Most of
the christian world was Cathlic at this point in history. The Praters were
taxed heavily for their religion, but because of their high social and
politicial connections they continued to do well. Also they were related to
many other noble and titled families.
Records state that George died "enterstate". I believe that he died while
working at Nunney. He was buried in his church at Latton, Wiltshire. His tomb
is under the floor of the church in the 7th isle. People of this period in
history believed that they would surely go to heaven if they were buried in
the church. Only the wealthiest could afford a place in the church.
This accounts for the records that I was forturate to find.

*George Prater bought from Roger Yonge, in 1543, messuages and lands in
Cryklade, Chelworth Magna, Chelworth parva and Coldcott for 190 marks.

*George Prater bought from Michael Quintyne, Gentleman and Margaret his wife,
in 1559, messuages in Lydyarde Treygoose and Cancourt for 430 marks.

*George Prater was listed at Stanton St.Bernard Parish, Wiltshire with the
highest assessment of taxpayers for the benevolence of 1545 of Swanborough
Hundred.

Spelling variations of his name found in the records:
Prator, Praytor, Prater, Pretor, Preter, Praiter, Pratero, Pratellis.

The records of England are probably the best in the world when it comes to
early history. Especially if you are forturate enough to be descended from
noblity. research by Gary Benton Prather

!I find George of Latton co.Wilts and Richard of Eaton Water,Wilts.Latton is a Parish,Eaton Water is a place.Visitation of Wilts 1623,when his daughter Dorothy m.George Provender,her last name is listed as Prowse or Precy or Prater of Latton.

George married Jane Plott Shefford Magna, Wiltshire, England. Jane (daughter of Richard Plott, Sir and Alice) was born Abt 1515, Blewberye, Berkshire, Eng; died 05 Feb 1587, ,Wiltshire, Eng; was buried 05 Feb 1587, Latton Parish, Wiltshire, Eng. [Group Sheet]

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• Occupation: Knight, to the King; Father
• Reference Number: 8193
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Jane Plott was from Blueberry Manor, Blueberry,Berks.
The manor of Blueberry (Bluebury) was once in the holdings of Gerald of
Windsor. For this reason I believe that the Plott family were descended
from the Geraldine lines.
Other Geraldine lines include Carew, Fitzgerald, Fitzsteven, Fitzwarren,
Fitzwalter, Fitzhugh, Marshall and many others.

Jane Plotts husband, George Prater came into possession of other properties
of Latton, Wiltshire from the heirs of the Earl of St.German (Ellis).
Latton,Wilts. is recorded as belonging to Reinbold de Presbyster (Prater)
the first Chancelor of England after the Norman conquest (1066).
Reinbold de Presbyter (the Elder) (Prater) was a powerful Lord who was well
established in England before the Norman conquest, he was also a priest of
Noble linage. The noble priest of this period in history were usually of a
fighting class of man who had right to hold arms and had their own army, such
was the case with Rienbold. He also held the Manor of Frome in Somerset which
was located next to the Manor of Nunney.

The name Prater was the Angelican version of the latin word Presbyter.
Presbyter,Prater, The Elder, Praetor, Praetorian was a class of people of
early Roman times who were Magistrates, Justices, and Learned Men whose
position was usually inherited and passed down in the family.
It is beleived that a descendant of this class was attached to the Norman and
English Crowns and held their power though their connection with the Church.
Our Prater family is beleived to have descended from this class of people.
The Praters of England held such positions of power though out the country,
both of the Crown and Church.
by Gary Benton Prather

The Will of Jane Prater:

In the name of God Amen; the xviith day of January in the xxixth yeare of the
Raigne of our moste gratious Soveraigne Lady Elizabeth Quene of Englande,
France and Ireland defender of the fayth etc. I Jame Prater of latton in the
county of Wiltes Wydowe beinge of whole mynde and in good and perfitt
remembrance, laude and prayse be to god for the same, make and ordayne this my
present testament concerninge my last will in manner and forme following, (id
est) First I commende my soule unto almightie god my maker and redemer and my
bodie to be buryed in the church of Latton, Item I give to the churche of
Latton vd (5d), Item I give to the churche of Sarum xiid (12d), Item I give
unto the Cricklade St. Sampson xiid (12d), Item I give to sonne Nicholas
Prater 3 vis viiid (-L3:6:8) Item I give unto my daughter Dorothye Provender
one feather bed which now I lye one Asloe I give to Margaret Spenser one
silver Saulte parcell gilte the silver saulte in now in the keeping of my
sonne Anthony Prater alsoe I give to W8illiam Prater one golde ringe the
which ringe is nowe in the Keepinge of William Kemble, Item I give to Robert
Prater and George Prater one silver bowle parcell gilte the which bowle my
forsyed sonne anthony nowe keepeth Item I give to Mary Prater and to Jane
Prater iiii or silver spones, Item I give to George Williamses one brasse
pott, Item I give to Richard Haywarde one quarter of barley Item I give to
Jane Robertes one rede peticoate and two bushels of barley, Item I give to
Jane Ashtone and her daughter Jane one silver spoone Also I give to every
godchilde that I have xiid a peece Item I give to Joan Leinell my goune,
Item my will is that all thes my giftes shalbe delivered within one year after
my decease, I tem my will is that my son Anthony Prater shall have goveranance
and bringinge upp of William Prater and shall have the use of his stocke
untill the saide William accomplishe and come to the age of xxi yeares, soe
that the saied Anthonly will discharge my executor wholly of the saied stocke
Thae sazied Anthony now haveing on hundred poundes in his hands of the saied
alsoe my will is that my executor shall have the governance bringinge of Jane
Prater untill she accomplishe the saied age of xxi yeares and alsoe shall have
the use of her stocke, dueringe the saied terme, The rest of my goodes movable
and unmoveable not given nor bequeathed my debtes paied and funerall expenses
discharged, I give my sonne Bartholomew Prater whome I make my whole and
lawfull executro to see that this my last will and testament be well and
trewlye performed Item I make and ordaine William Kemble and George Provender
my overseers of this my will and testament, Witnessess her John Tomes, Edward
Douie, Randell Ashtone, with others.

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!TIB #2080 Manti says b.abt 1493,changed to 1485,of West Heynton,Wilts.Eng.His father Richard Ivie{changed to Ivye} b.1455.mother Isabel Canning.His wife Elizabeth Keynes.He was bap 7 Feb 1928,end 13 Sep 1928.He m.2nd to Elizabeth Mallet.submitte d by James R Ivie,rel.

Thomas married Elizabeth Malet Abt 1549, of, Wiltshire, England. Elizabeth (daughter of Hugh Malet and Isabel Michel) was born , of Enmore and Deandon, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet]

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• Occupation: Inglesham Manor (others)
• Reference Number: 16384
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!from a Prather source he was b.abt 1480 at Eaton Water,Wilts.

I believe that John Prater was a Reeve or other official who held his position
under Sir Anthony Kingston.
Sir Anthony Kingston was " Provost Marshall in the Field" (Cornwall) for the
king of England.
John Prater like others in the history of the family held a position in the
judicuary. He may have been a Baliff or Reeve acting or "Holding" under Sir
Anthony Kingston.
In Johns wifes Will she stated that she had monies due her from Sir Anthony
Kingston.
These monies may have been an enheritance OR fees due her husband for
services rendered.

Spelling variations found in the records for his name:
Prater, Pretor, Preter, Preiter, Prator.

He owned acreage which bordered 3 shires including severial Manors.
Some of these were Inglesham, Eaton Water, Hook, Stanton St. Bernard,
Latton, and properties in Nunney, Oxford, etc. The family controled the woolin
trade in that parrt of Enland,they owned all the major Wool Washing/Processing
centers as well as controlling major grazing and thousands of head of Sheep.
They held extremely powerful positions in the Kingdom.// Gary Benton Prather

John married Elene ( Kingston, or St.John ??). Inglesham, Wiltshire, England. Elene (daughter of Sir Anthony Kingston and Mrs Anthony Kingston) was born Abt 1493, of, Inglesham, Wiltshire, England; died 30 Aug 1557, Inglesham, Wilts.; was buried 30 Aug 1557, Inglesham Manor Church, Prater Chancel. [Group Sheet]

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Elene is thought to be a related to Sir Anthony Kingston of Painswick,
Gloucestershire who married Mary Courtenay.
Sir Anthony Kingston was Provost - Marshal in Cornwell, Knighted by King
Henry VIII, 18 Oct. 1537. Also served in House of Commons. Died: 14 Apr. 1556.
Sir William Kingston,(prob. the brother of Elene) was Knighted in 1513 and was
the Keeper of the Tower of London when Ann Bolyn was beheaded there.
The title of Keeper of the Tower of London was one of the most powerful
positions to hold under King Henry VIII.
The Manor of West Kingston descended to the Ivye family from the Kingstons.
The Kingstons, Ivye (Ivrye), De la Mere (Delamare), Scope, Carew, St.John,
Mallot, Bohun, Courtenay, and Prater families were all allied families which
had entermarried into one anothers families for generations.
*The Courtenay family was directly descended from "Pharamond" the first King
of France (ca. the year 480)
*Kingstones were Irish Barons (Baron King) and the Earls of Kingsbourgh.
*The De la Meres were Norman and desended from a powerful Baron named Norman
whose Castle was on a lake in Normandy. (ca. the year 940) and beleived to be
descended from King Charlemagine.
*Carew was descended from Sir Otho of Windsor a younger son of Otho the 7th
Count of Vermindos, who himself was descended from Pepin III King of Italy,the
younger son of King Charlemagine.
*Scope family descended from powerful Norman Barons that date back to Edward
the Confessor (ca. the year 900's). A descendant held the position of Chief
Justice under King Edward I.

For many years we have thought Elene (Kingston) Prater to be close to
Sir Anthony Kingston because Elene mentions Sir Anthony Kingston in her Will.
We have sence found information from the coat-of-arms of, Anthony Prater, her
grandson that indicates she was related to the Kingstons and de la Mares.
Sir William Kingston was Knighted in 1513 and was a Knight of the Garter
24 apr., 1538. He died 14 Sept., 1540.
We are not sure how Sir William Kingston or Sir Anthony Kingston
are related to Elene but we think she may have been a Kingston or Delamare.
It is certain that Sir Anthony Kingston was related to her in such a way
that she was a close enough relative to have listed Sir Anthony Kingston as
a benifactor to her estate in her Will. by GBPrather 1993

The Will of Eleane Prater:

In the name of god Amen the 20th daye of the moneth of June In the yere of our
lord god 1547 and in the fyrste yere of the Reygne of Kynge Edward the VI.
I Elene Prater Sycke in bodye and hole of mynde make my testament in this
manner Awyse Fyrste I bequethe my Sowle unto all myghtye god my bodye to
buryed in the Cha\uncell of Inglesham by my husband.
Item I bequethe to the hyghe aulter of Inglesham sijd (12d) Also I bequethe to
the mother churche of Sarum vid. (6d) Also I gyve and Bequethe unto every
daughter of John Prater my sone xx (20) marks at the tyme of theire marraige
Also I bequeathe to his (2) sonnes everye of them xx (20) marks.. with xiij
xiij iiijd (-L13:13:4) that was my husbands gyfte unto them and every of them
vj xiij & iiijd (-L6:13:4) to be paydd them by the hands of my Sone George
Prater Also I bequethe unto John Prey my oxen and my lyttell carte A mare and
a Coulte that I boughte of Jamys my Servaunt my furred Petycott and nauntell
and my bed that I do lye on And halfe the crope of the holde that he
deawellyth in Also I bequethe unto Katheryne my made a Cowe Also I bequethe to
Alyce my servant a heyfer of ij (2) yeres owlde Also I bequethe unto Elene my
Servandt my Rede Sleveles Petycott A smocke and A kerchewe Also I bequethe
unto every godchylde of myne viijd (8d) Also I wyll that every of my men
servants to have bj viijd (6s. 8d) Excepte John Prety also I gyve and
bequethe towards the performmaunce of the my wyll x (-L40) that Sir Anthony
Kyngeston dothe owe me also I bequethe to the churche of Letcheled vj viijd
(6s. 8d.) Item I bequeathe to fowes Rynggers iijd (4d) Item I bequethe to
Sir John Vycar vi viijd (6s. 8d)
The Resydewe of all my goodes unbequethed unto Thomas Stephyns whome I make
myne Executor thes beryng wyttenes Syr John Roddeys Vycar, John Baly, William
Brystowe with others.

Note that Thomas Stephens married her daughter Joane Prater.
We are still searching for the Will of her husband John Prater.

On the thirtieth day of the month of August in the year of our Lord 1557
commission emanated to George Prater son of Elene Prater deceased and to
Richard Prater and Nicholas Stephins nephews of the same Elene for
administering the goods of the said deceased accordcing to the tenor of such
will because the executor named in such will died before he took upon himself
the burden of the execution of the said will for well etc. having been sworn
vizt. the said George Prater in the person of Thomas Dockwrey notary public
his proxy etc. and the Richard Prater and Nicholas Stephins being personally
present etc. for an inventory..........

*St.John family descended from powerful Norman Barons which came into England
at the time of the Conquest (ca. the year 1066) from their Manorial Estates
of St.Jeanes in Normandy.
*Prater family is beleived to have descended from Welch Princes and Norman
Marcher Barons who possibly descended from Roman Nobility.
research by Gary Benton Prather

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Richard married Alice of Blewbury, Berkshire, England. Alice was born , Blewberye, Berkshire, , Eng. [Group Sheet]

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!Possible b. in Sodbury,Gloucester,Eng.TIB #25225 Manti says so.gives b.abt 1455.bap 7 Feb 1928,end 21 mar 1928,submitted by James R Ivie.wife Isabel Caming.

Richard married Isabell Canning of West Kingston, Wiltshire, England. Isabell (daughter of Michael Canning and Mrs Michael Canning) was born , of West Kingston, Wiltshire, England; died , , Wiltshire, , Eng. [Group Sheet]

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!GBP.I also found this line in the Malet family pedigree which was quite extensive,it is the basis for most of the information on the family.LDS Ancestral File gives the following but with little else,so I won't change any record,just list them he re.Hugh Malet b.1500-d.1541.Isabel Mitchell,b.1502.children,Joan,b.1517,Elizabeth,b.1519,
Agatha,b.1521,Richard,b.1523,Mary,b.1524,Dorothy,b.1525,Isabel,b.1527,Thomas,b.1529.They gave Elizabeth a
husband,Ivey,I wonder how they got the family so complete with no real depth?There was a little on Isabel's line,but nothing to add to what I have.

Hugh married Isabel Michel of Gurney Street, Cannington, Somerset, England. Isabel (daughter of Thomas Michaell and Mary Margaret FitzJames) was born , of Gurney Street, Cannington, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet]

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!GBP.since I got his version,I've found another source,(Malet)and tried to work in The Prater in England.I have two
lines for her,(# 18874 is the same part way back,and so far I have only straightened out the Michel part,the John and James generations don't quite jibe.This is my third try at this and after 3 hours my mind has gone to mush.