John Prater, Esq

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• Occupation: Inglesham Manor (others)
• Reference Number: 16384
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!from a Prather source he was b.abt 1480 at Eaton Water,Wilts.

I believe that John Prater was a Reeve or other official who held his position
under Sir Anthony Kingston.
Sir Anthony Kingston was " Provost Marshall in the Field" (Cornwall) for the
king of England.
John Prater like others in the history of the family held a position in the
judicuary. He may have been a Baliff or Reeve acting or "Holding" under Sir
Anthony Kingston.
In Johns wifes Will she stated that she had monies due her from Sir Anthony
Kingston.
These monies may have been an enheritance OR fees due her husband for
services rendered.

Spelling variations found in the records for his name:
Prater, Pretor, Preter, Preiter, Prator.

He owned acreage which bordered 3 shires including severial Manors.
Some of these were Inglesham, Eaton Water, Hook, Stanton St. Bernard,
Latton, and properties in Nunney, Oxford, etc. The family controled the woolin
trade in that parrt of Enland,they owned all the major Wool Washing/Processing
centers as well as controlling major grazing and thousands of head of Sheep.
They held extremely powerful positions in the Kingdom.// Gary Benton Prather

John married Elene ( Kingston, or St.John ??). Inglesham, Wiltshire, England. Elene (daughter of Sir Anthony Kingston and Mrs Anthony Kingston) was born Abt 1493, of, Inglesham, Wiltshire, England; died 30 Aug 1557, Inglesham, Wilts.; was buried 30 Aug 1557, Inglesham Manor Church, Prater Chancel. [Group Sheet]

1. George Prater, Esq was born Abt 1516, Inglesham, Wilts. or Eaton Water, Wilts.; died 01 Feb 1564, Latton Parish, Wiltshire, England; was buried , Latton, Wilts. in His Manor Church.
2. Jone Jane Prater was born Abt 1518, Eaton Water, Wiltshire, England; was christened , Or Eaton Water, Wilts.; was buried , Pro. Inglesham Wilts. or Swindon, Wilts..
3. John Prater, Gentleman was born Abt 1520, Eaton Water, Wiltshire, England.

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!The source for the following names,Magn.Rotul.Scaccarii Normaniae in Memoires de La Socie'te des Antiquaires de La Normandie,T 15-17.
Prater-Richard de Pretot,Normandie-1198{MRS} other spellings-Praetor,Praill, de Pralliis,de Praeriis,{IB}_Henry de Prahors{a Baronial family in Normandy and England}.Prall_Prato for Peretot in Normandy_Pratt from Pratum or Pre near Lisieux {Roue n Castle was owned by this name}.This information is from a book called "Normans"found in Sutro Library,SF.In George Omerod's book,De Preaux means "of the Meadow",This week,24 Aug 1999,Ronald Marvin,from San Diego,stopped by and showed me a book," What's in a name?"(surnames of America) by LaReina Rule and William K Hammond,a very old paperback which gives the following,Prater (Ger;Aut:Eng.)r.w.Pratum (Lat.)Home on a Meadow;r.s.Preatre (O.E.)Priestlike manner. Shield;(Eng,)Black background, three silver wolf heads; a black lion on a gold stripe across shiels's top.

Williamus married Alice ( Carew, ??). Bef 1480, Eton Water, Wiltshire, England. Alice was born , of, Wiltshire, England; died , of Englesham, Wiltshire Co., England. [Group Sheet]

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!Her names are from two sources,nothing to confirm either.

Carew is a Welch word meaning "a fortification" or"a fortified house."
Gerald "of Windsor" built a Castle in Wales in 1109 which became known as
Carew Castle. This was one of his "seats of power", for he held severial
Castles by the "grace" of the King of England.
One of his grandsons, William Fitz Gerald, became the heir of Carew Castle
for which his name was then "stylized" as William de Carew. The name Carew
then became the named used by his descendants.
Gerald de Windsor (of Windsor) was the son of Sir Walter de Windsor and
Gladys (the Princess of North Wales). Sir Walter was the son of Sir Otho de
Windsor, he and his son Walter were the Constables of the Castle and Manor
of Windsor. Gerald never held this title but was a highly place official in
Wales for the King of England. He was known as the Kings "Lord" in Wales.
Gerald de Windsor was married to Nesta (the Princess of South Wales).
This gave the King of England a unique hold over the Welch, with Gerald being
of Norman/Welch desent and the Kings "Lord" in Wales.
All of these people were our grandparents though the material side of our
family. George Prater of Latton,Wiltshire had included in his Coat-of-Arms
the simbols of the Carew family indicating that they were from his material
family.As well as established records proving the Prater and Carew connection.
North and South Wales was divided by a Kingdom named "Powys". The Prater
Coat-of-Arms also shows that another grandmother was the Princess of Powys.
The 3 Wolf Heads on the lower shield are the Arms of Brockwell Yscitheor
"the Prince of Powys" --his daughter married our grandfather.
The Kings of Wales claimed to be descended from great Noble Romans/Trojans.

CAREW: Descends from William de Fitzgerald (William de Carew) who was
gramdson of Gerald de FitzWalter (Gerald of Windsor) who was the son
of Sir Walter de FitzOthero (Walter of Windsor) who was the son of
Sir Othero of Windsor (Sir Othero was a Welch / Norman adventurer from
Norway) 945 A.D. to 1050 A.D. he was son of Gerald Dais Lopez of
Italy and Norway. Gerald Dais Lopez descended from Cosmos Lopez of
Florence, Italy.

Sir Othero and then his son Walter FitzOthero were Constables of
Windsor. The seat of power in Saxon England.
It is thought that these people descended from the Counts of
Vermindois who in turn descended from Pepin, King of Italy and
Lombardi. This stands for reason, sense they married the daughters
of the Kings of North and South Wales.

Carew Castle stands today, it is currently being restored by the National
Trust of England. This Castle fell into the hands of severial owners though
the years and most of the information currently available for the generial
public does NOT discuss the builder or Carews which held it for generations.
But this information is available in the Welch historicial records.
research by Gary Benton Prather

!Her names are from two sources,nothing to confirm either.She made a claim for the property of Brimhill,was unable to come up with papers so lost out.GBP.

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William — Elezabeth (de Carew, or de la Mare ??).. Elezabeth was born , of, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet]

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!From GBP

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!TIB #6613 rel Wilford Woodruff,15 gg nep. This is the longest Praers at the moment,so am hanging our line here.From Ormerond 1882 vol 3.Sir Robert Praers,Chamberlain of Chester,17-23 Ric 2,(qy.whether of this family or not; called Robert Pari s in Leycester's list,and "Rob. Parys"in Recog.Ro.identify not improbable with Praers,but he was not a knight).It was about this time the name Prater showed up.