Geoffrey de Say

Bef 1140 - Bef 1214  (< 74 years)

• Name	Geoffrey de Say
  Born	Bef 1140
  Gender	Male
  Died	Bef 19 Mar 1214
  Record Change	12 Apr 2009
  Person ID	I117458	120k
  Last Modified	28 Jul 2015

  
  

  Father	Geoffrey de Say,   d. 1215
  Relationship	Natural
  Mother	Lettice de Maminot
  Relationship	Natural
  Family ID	F45636	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Alice de Vere,   b. of Oxford
  Children	1. Geoffrey de Say,   b. of Rickling, Essex  [Natural]
  Last Modified	28 Jul 2015
  Family ID	F45634	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 2	Alice de Cheney
  Children	1. Geoffrey de Say,   d. 19 Aug 1230, At Sea  [Natural]   2. William de Say,   d. Bef 08 Mar 1198  [Natural]
  Last Modified	28 Jul 2015
  Family ID	F45635	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  !brother and heir-male.Born before 1140.He had a Protracted suit with Geoffrey Fitzpiers,husband of his niece Beatrice,for the lands of the Earldom of Essex,1st Dec.1194 (Rot.Cur,Regis I.p 129).and he is still recorded as owing 7000 marks for tha t inheritance as late as 1202 (Rot.Canc.3 Joh.m 9).although Geoffrey Fitzpiers had been recognised as Earl of Essex since Easter 1190.(Rot.Pip.2 Ric.1.Essex and Herts).In 1210,he answered,apparently as heir,for 27 knights fees of the Barony of Wachelin Maminot,of Greenwich,Berling,etc.,Kent.(Lib.Rub.fo 132Ad Kent),and confirmed the grants of the said Wachelin,whom he styles his ancestor,to Begeham Abbey.(mon.Ang.II,640a n 30).The exact relationship is unknown,but the Maminot property continued in this family during the succeeding generations.He m (1), before 1180,Alice,dau.and co-heir of John de Cheney,and widow of Hugh de Piris (Genealogist,N.S.vol XVII p 9;Eyton,Shropshire,III 362) by whom he had issue,